me too. She liked to tell us that we were touched by fairies. on at Christmas. i have brown hair and green eyes with olive skin. the scoundrel father. Why is no one discussing the Moors who ruled Ireland for years. The dense coat is waterproof, an ideal trait for this expert swimmer and water retriever. Thank you for informing us "Black Irish" on our confusing, but highly tropical, appearances! Thank you. Their descendants of today may be the BlackIrish according to some myths. James D. I have always been told that I was Black Irish, and I just looked it up today to see what it meant. What do you think? We're proud to be Irish! The term "Black Irish" is generally used for people of Irish origin with dark features, black hair, darker skin, and dark eyes. Anyone of mixed race calling themselves "Black Irish" is ill-informed. o' the Morning," with Bing Crosby; and Walt Disney's "Darby O'Gill and If there was a war anywhere, then there has been an injection of new genes, probably the only positive thing to come from war, after all, we'd all end up inbred otherwise! While it at various stages was almost certainly used as an insult, the term "Black Irish" has emerged in recent times as a virtual badge of honor among some descendants of immigrants. One sister has olive skin and green eyes. classifying this subgroup with the term "black Irish" made them instantly distinguishable. Most Irish people actually have dark brown or black hair, dark eyes and fairly pale skin. Table of Contents Are hazel eyes Irish? It is sometimes believed that these Gypsies intermarried with the white Irish andproducedthe BlackIrish People. Most have blonde to brown hair tones, not black. These were the most congenial truths of his religion. However, it is widely disputed whether the Tuatha were real Celtics and whether the Fir Bolg were the Cro-Magnon people. Philip Larkin called "shallow, violent eyes." I still am not quite sure what that is, but the family name for five generations of women that I know of is Regina Alicia.I don't think that is a traditional Irish name. into as many as nine kingdoms, hence many kings, hence many genealogies Either way, the features of the Fir Bolg may be attributed to the appearance of the BlackIrish people of today. I am American, with maternal and paternal Irish ancestors. impetuous, impatient, and improvident, instinctively brave, The Viking Irish have the same history: an infusion of tall red and blonds along the east coast, Wexford, Waterford, and Dublin. the thinking at the time was that these people were not capable of self government. The Irish temperament is world-famous. Tamar was David's royal daughter, known as Tea, daughter of LugHaidh (Bethel meaning God's House). Let's get this clear. Irish people who have dark hair, brown eyes and dark complexions are often referred to as Black Irish. The features are chiseled and angular. I'm just speaking from Boston POV! My grandmothers last name is Haley, another old and not very common Irish last name. of Hibernians doing slow intense prowls over the television cables, Having read all of these interesting posts, I find it odd that no one came up with the story I was always told: The "Black Irish" were the lower-class folks, as in, not the "Lace-Curtain Irish" (Who were obviously rich because they could afford lace curtains.) If you go to Irish speaking communities, you will see a significant number of the population with dark features. Also, In the 1600s the Irish were the main slaves in Montserrat, 70 percent of the population. Scientists have concluded that the Celts did not invade Ireland en masse, nor did they replace an earlier group. account in 1913 said: "His hair is of a fiery red, he is rosy-cheeked, During periods of increased European immigration to the United States, European-descended people found new ways to distinguish ethnic European groups and sub-groups from one another. Psychosis is rarely permanent. The real, original Irish are all dark haired and dark featured. Interesting posts. They intermarried with other tribes in Ireland and the results were blue and green-eyed people with black hair and fair skin. These people had olive Mediterranean features and were the founding populations of Britain. It was also used in Ireland by Catholics in Ulster Province as a derogatory term to describe the Protestant Planters. A handful of the survivors fled to Scotland, but it is believed to be unlikely that any of them ever made it past the beaches of Ireland and unlikely that any of them could have made a significant genetic contribution to the people of Ireland. My mom is too, but she dies her hair. all critics -- who knows how many people chased Sinn Fein leader Gerry Look at people like Gabriel Byrne. These features are normally dark hair, dark blue/green/brown eyes and sallow skin. Imagine what peace we could have on earth. Our grandfather is 84 and still has jet black hair. Black and Irish. of the Irish. obituaries, don't you? . People look at me and see me as white. Black Irish: The same skin without the freckles, and hair that is For example, it is believed that some American Indians including Cherokees described themselves as Black Irish during the early 1800s to avoid being driven off their land. 36,629 2,266 2,589. the playboy, yet at the playboy he incessantly mocks. The motive is to discredit the Irish accomplishments, by placing them as subhuman, which in modern times is demeaning to people of color, and to the Irish themselves. I thought "Dark Irish" refers to those as having very fair skin yet dark hair and blue, green or hazel/brown eyes. First of all, the most commonly used words for the head are: ceann /kyow-in/ and cloigeann /klih-gunn/ On the front of our head we have the face, and the two most commonly used Irish words for face are: aghaidh /eye-igg/ and adan /aye-ah-dunn/ Are you still . It is possible that the arrival of large numbers of Irish after the famine into America, Canada, Australia, and beyond resulted in their being labeled as "black" in that they escaped from this new kind of black death. These myths are; Although there is no weighted reference to the natives of Ireland, there exists anIrish Myth. I ran into a lady once who said it makes her so mad to hear the term "Irish American". It could also be a German ancestry thing. The smarminess of the Irish Spring soap ads. Nothing Iberian about it. They are a mix of parents from two different countries. Gt grandma was born in Ireland in 1840 and married a born and bred New Yorker. black, a blackness said to come from survivors of the Spanish Armada, said, "Romantic Ireland's dead and gone.". Some Irish have dark hair. They tended to avoid the census takers, but when confronted, rather than being shipped off to Indian Territory (Oklahoma, at the time), they claimed to be "Black Irish.". camera as much as it captures them. Theobald Mathew in the New York Tribune, on worldwide nation of the Poor and Downtrodden. the More recently, they have found that the Irish and British are more related to Belgians, Dutch and Northern French (Brittany). 9 Typical Traits of Irish People #1 They Love Tea #2 They Love A Good Moan #3 Gossip Is Currency #4 They Are Fierce #5 The Irish Welcome #6 Potatoes Are Everything #7 Always Up For The 'Craic' #8 The Irish Goodbye #9 The Gift Of The Gab What Is The Irish Mentality? He has dark hair, darker skin and lighter eyes, while his brother looks the part of a full blooded Indian (NAtive American) and our daughters are light skinned, shaded hair, and blonde, with dark blue eyes. My dad's family is originally from northern Ireland, and he has the typical red hair, freckles, and pale skin. Long chin, dark brown hair, 6 tall 170lbs, slender athletic build, quite strong for my size. Mixed Gypsy/Romani or the Irish Travelers The Gypsies are a people with stark features among their European counterparts. Genetically and ethnically however, the Irish are of the Basque region and Northern Africa before that. The practice of Cherokees' identifying as Black Dutch or Black Irish originated during and after the 1830s Indian Removal era. African slaves were far more expensive than Irish slaves, so to cut the cost African males were bred with Irish females so their owners wouldn't have to purchase an African slave. In N. Ireland I was called black Irish by some protestant thugs but it was mystifying to me. The Iberian-Irish connection is 100 percent obvious also. wallow in your false pride! My father is "Black Irish," with black hair and brown eyes. Despite their interactions with foreigners, and a series of devastating forced migrations, the Cherokee have retained their unique culture and stayed united as a people. It is simple. Maybe it isn't a myth. i am anon24687. If the irish were such cave men as what the romans claim, then it should have been a piece of cake to take them down since roman army had lots of weapons to do so. My friend bought me a Black Irish T-shirt because my mother is black and my father is half black, half Irish. Yet, as a subject of historical discussion, it is almost never referred to in Ireland. Further, their accent bears the Gaelic lilt of the Irish language. I am African American of Irish and other European decent. I was once thought to be east indian when tanned, by a black man! However, most Europeans have long, narrow noses, prominent cheekbones, hooded and almond-shaped eyes, and thin lips. Some of these offspring were sold in private auctions as sex slaves for the elite. How is this explained? The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. What is it about Irish names, particularly boys' The phrase Black Irish to me is talking about Irish people who clearly have Spanish ancestry, possibly from the Spanish Armada story. Tip O'Neill: Faces of this model, named for the late speaker of the 4 (3 views). They have fair, cool-toned skin like most Irish people. The Norman invasions of 1170 and 1172 led by Strongbow saw yet another wave of immigrants settle in the country, many of whom fiercely resisted English dominance of the island in the centuries that followed. "Black Irish" sometimes refers to Black people who are also citizens of Ireland, but it is also a colloquial term that refers to caucasian people of Irish ancestry who have black hairtheir eyelashes and body hair may also be noticeably black as well. i think the person who wrote about the insanity thing is wrong a bit but a lot of people of this background who i know are always in trouble and temperamental. Totally fascinating! The term has nothing at all got to do with dark hair nor eyes, The term here in ireland is in connection with the irish slave trade, and the signs saying, No irish, no blacks, no dogs. We are known as the blacks of europe, purely on racist terms. the national peculiarity of features, and by this they are readily I would have to say out of all the people in the world, the irish have the most mysterious eyes ever -- as if they are looking into your soul. In addition to her work as a freelance writer for PublicPeople, Diane is the executive editor of A quick review of Irish history reveals that the island was. I'm not saying its not a racial thing, but my family is white and from Ireland, and yet both sides of my family moved to get away from the problems going on at the time in Ireland. With that all said, I didn't get the impression anyone in this string of comments disagrees. People make mistakes, and people try to rewrite history as well. I assume none of you have studied ancient celtic civilizations or anthropology either. If the Spanish Armada story is an unlikely answer, then perhaps we should consider the hundreds of years of "trade" with Spain in Irish ports. I'm saying all that to say, it's very possible for a priest or anyone else to improperly identify a child's race at birth. I have been mistaken as being Indian or middle eastern. We are black, black irish, sioux indian and spanish!!! Heh. Some soldiers were swept off to England where Queen Mary II of Tudor put them to death. Michael Dawley. In Ireland, 1847 was called Black '47 because thousands of people died from famine and disease, and people who emigrated from Ireland to escape these conditions might have been referred to as Black Irish. But, underneath, there was genuine talent.". Research suggests that stereotypical Black faces consist of some combination of facial features including full lips, wide nose, dark eye color, coarse hair, and dark complexion (Blair, Judd, Sadler, & Jenkins, 2002; Stepanova & Strube, 2009).Many studies investigating stereotypical Black features have incorporated skin tone as a defining characteristic of "stereotypicality" (Blair et al . I come from a hardworking Irish family, throughout history poor, and working for a living. 00:00 - What does a black Irish look like?00:42 - Why do Irish have red hair?01:16 - What are typical Irish facial features?Laura S. Harris (2020, December 3. Immigrant groups throughout history have generally been treated poorly by the indigenous population (or by those who simply settled first). But the brogue-and-shillelagh romance has nothing to do with the This characteristic is similar to the Basque males of Spain and is believed to be responsible for the dark features. I will continue to look more into this. Irish Facial Features. She claimed to be of "Black Irish" descent on her mother's side (her mother or grandmother may have been part Indian in the Missouri Territory). Brian Boru, Rory O'Connor: At various times Ireland has been divided They have black hair, brown eyes. My mom has thalassemia, as do other members of my family from my mom's Irish side. Typically, they were farmers, miners, fishermen -- you get the drift. Not sure where the term comes from, but I know during Irish slavery when the Irish were shipped as white cargo to the Americas and the West Indies as slaves, they were bred with African slaves to so called "create" a better and cheaper slave (than an African slave). To 24687, I think that is only in his family, if it's true at all. . There are 39 He has blue eyes and fair skin. By the way, I'm from the Pollock line. He is vain, a Irish setters and Persian cats also bear their coloring in the modern era. Irish and Basque people carry nearly identical DNA features compared to that of the rest of the world and are known to be one of the most racially pure DNA markers in the world i.e no other mix of DNA has been introduced. I had also read that we are descended from israelites, which probably everyone here did as well since we came from Noah. Black Irish were those people who opposed the 'Whiteboys' movement. Any truth to this? And to seal it off, for 800 years the English had their way with Hibernia. This finding gives the Armada Myth credibility. Side-of-beef faces, faces with fabulously understated blond hair of a baby -- you can almost smell the boiled food and the candles. I was born blonde, now have dark hair, with blue eyes and olive skin. Take no notice of some of the comments here saying most Irish have dark eyes and hair. The term also might have originated in the West Indies, where some Catholics are believed to have used it to describe Protestant immigrants from Ireland. First, I want to say that nationality is something you feel, not something you can see - it's not like ethnicity. Her father was dark as was her mother, both american born but Irish last names. It is also possible that within the various Irish cultures that became established in America that there was a pecking order, a class system that saw some of their countrymen labeled as "black.". Blacks ruled Scotland for many years. If they are from Scotland, I guess youre Scottish and the same thing for the English, Welsh, etc. If your Gt Grandpa was described as Mulatto on the census, and your Gt Grandma was not, then maybe he really was genuinely Mulatto. They were white-skinned with black hair. Love those old family stories. We are English on my father's side and Irish on my mother's side. ones seem to have a wisdom -- they've seen the worst the world can dish Further Reading As are the welsh. children arranged by height, like organ pipes, and the mother holding a What you get in the end are Irish and Scots Gaelic. We truly are a stubborn bunch, and we probably won't admit that of course, because we're one of the common traits of Irish people is that we are pretty stubborn. @152949: Yes, I'd be afraid to wear it too! The Irish sports page. Black Irish: Directed by Brad Gann. Are these typical facial features of Irish people long oval shaped faces Medium too High cheekbones Small eyes that are thin and narrow Round Prominent chin Slightly Upturned nose Dark hair and Dark eyes are very common among Irish people like Dark Brown and Hazel even Black hair and Brown eyes is also common Milky. of a great movie, "The Commitments," in which a group of young people They are huge, like barns shingled with jowls, layer on layer, chin on chin, eye bags on eye bags, sometimes with the vast, red nose that has provoked the definition of an Irishman as Thirty pounds of face and 40 pounds of liver. Most of the Irish people will have a light skin color. King Niall, Shane the Proud, To me, an American growing up with Irish parents, my take on it, is be proud if your parents or grandparents say they are black Irish. million Irish in America -- almost one out of six Americans claimed ignorant calumniator . they would have had all kinds of them in and out of Ireland and the men would leave, leaving the women and the child behind which could easily change physical characteristics of a nationality. on the census, but we don't have our schools filling up with Helmuts and an M.A. Red hair was a mutation of the protein that normally expresses (genotype) as eumelanin, in the realm of the black/brown hair color. I believe, by the way, that Black Irish is a term that refers to those with the very dark hair (eyes either light or dark) and that probably comes from contact or migration from predominantly dark-haired people further south, as has been said, probably Basque and in that general region. Our heritage keeps us grounded. We know how to work. I think it's just interesting to have these conversations and share what connects us and what makes us unique. i'm black irish myself and when talking to my dad he says it does refer to the color of our skin/hair/eyes. Of course, the Irish, just like all people, can come in different hair colors and eye colors. The hair and eye color thing is a laughable as someone who lives in Ireland! The term "black Irish" is just another term for poor, hardworking people. They are mostly stout and hardy, dark haired, dark skinned and dark-eyed. First, My family came to America in the 1600's from Ireland. Another possibility is that poor immigrants from Ireland during the Great Famine of the late 1840s were called this term in their new country. I had a 21-marker-pair autosomal test through DNA tribes. Small world, isn't it? I have very light color eyes that turn gray, orange, green and hazel. I read an entire book on schizophrenia and it is a phenomenon that has never been solved. All this come from the ignorance of bitter, jealous people who cannot extinguish the fire of their own hatred towards their fellow man. I have green eyes and many freckles from childhood, however, my fair skin usually gradually tans nicely, perhaps with a reassertion of some freckles. Another theory notes that the Irish were originally descended from Scythians, from present-day Iran (and that these people also migrated to Spain). Also, everyone of every color faces some degree of racism in their lifetime (unless they're living underground from birth, but that's unlikely). That, along with other characteristics, show the modern day Irish and Scottish and others of the original Celtic nations to be a distinct people unto themselves, rather than some variation of Teutonic origins, as with the English. Way," with Bing Crosby; "The Luck of the Irish," with Tyrone Power; "Top Also, they have rounder faces, fuller lips, and larger eyes than people in South Wales. When I was a younger man, some asked if I was black Irish. . When my husband was in the navy his friend was of Irish decent, named Daily - black hair and green eyes. However, all the theories are hotly contested among Historians except for the Montserrat theory. Have been all my life. I hope this helps. "They seem to have come up along the coast through Western Europe and arrived in Ireland, Scotland and Wales. All the women in my family fall under this description. "Black Irish" is a bit of Irish humour, you see. Wall plaques reading "May the road rise to meet you. The Irish tip is one of the most wanted, even in L.A." The characteristically "Irish". Black Irish, like the "dark folk" in Scotland, were the original, ancient peoples of both these countries: dark skinned, black hair and (originally) very tall people. But they look like a great people to me. Since the majority (65%) of Irish people have brown hair (only 15% have black hair, and almost all of them are fair-skinned and blue or green-eyed), classifying this subgroup with the term "black Irish" made them instantly distinguishable. I heard that Black Irish was a derogatory comment for Irish people that had dark hair, pale skin, and usually dark eyes. my eyes are brown, my hair is jet black and my skin is very pale..people often tell me i look russian but i don't have russian heritage..its all seemingly irish and scottish..im trying to do more research on my ancestry.. . I have also seen a guy here in Australia who was Welsh, but definitely looked very Aboriginal Australian. My great grand mother was Dutch, her family was called black Dutch, because they worked for a living. ", In 1851, the Rev. The Irish are Celtic, and therefore dark haired. The name Doyle is in Irish "O'Dubhghaill" which literally means "dark foreigner" which reveals their heritage as an invading force with dark intentions. thoughtlessly generous, quick to resent and forgive offenses, to form After reading about black irish I believe I may be black irish. Running "The Something strange and a little off. I do have dark, almost black, thick hair, blue eyes and tan skin. This mutation, pheomelanin, is responsible for the yellow-red pigmentation, while eumelanin is the default coloring for most humans - the brown-black end of the pigmentation scale. Wow-I had no idea what the term Black Irish meant and after reading all these posts I'm still confused. I am 100 percent Irish American with possibly 1/8 Belfast Orangewoman blood. Anyone have any ideas?. id never heard of black irish until recently, but all my family are from ireland, some born there and all have black hair. Also the english/scottish settlers in ireland, used the term "black irish" to describe people who lived in mountainous regions of ireland who worked the land and therefore had very rough looking features due to sun exposure and being dirty due to working their land all day. But what is the peculiarity? He has blonde/brownish hair also. It is considered to be more likely that a group of Spanish soldiers who served under Irish chiefs around the same time stayed in the country long enough to father children. So we ourselves in addition to the other two elements, I believe, resulted in the occurrence. Yeah all irish are dark skinned, and dark haired --whatever you want to believe but that's not true. there may be flasks and wailing. The term black Irish is a slur on any person of Irish descent who was poor and worked with their hands. The Moors were there. Sorry I forgot the name. how cool is that haha. A good example is Queen Elizabeth II. that may never have existed. I had always thought Siouxsie Sioux (born Susan Janet Ballion) of the punk band Siouxsie and the Banshees was Irish but, according to her Wikipedia bio, she is Belgian Walloon and English. out of the bog and you'd have died for sure.". Like in the time of Martin Luther King Jr. when there was a "coloured" drinking fountain and a "whites only" drinking fountain. brooding, unpredictable, angry, funny, cute, solemn and chaste, even if Wouldn't a lot of mothers choose Irish faces for their children too? Irish ancestry in the 1990 census. Some people believe that the word "black," in this case, refers to the "dark" intentions of groups of people who invaded Ireland, so their descendants might be referred to as Black Irish. Some say they came from the Spanish Armada. I definitely identify myself as a multiracial Black woman (my culture of origin), however genetically (cellularly) I am Caucasian (amazing but true!). @24687, or 26002: Schizophrenia is said to be genetic, and not one ethnicity alone is more likely to have individuals experience any mental illness. From 2 Samuel 13. I don't care for the term "Black Irish" all that much either. Deaths and wakes are an art form with the Irish, who traipse past Credit: Adobe Stock - Gorodenkoff i'm irish descent living in Scotland, my fathers side & me have the same features, Black hair, blue eyes, high cheek bones & the same size teeth. Does this finally help explain the dark Irish phenomenon? Very noticeable. The Irish were Israelites of King David, keeping the Sabbaths of Moses, and the whole nine yards. Although it often has been used as an insult, many people proudly describe themselves or their ancestors as Black Irish. 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