This case does offer a caution to other couples to communicate openly from both sides, whether from the side being overly controlling or the side that is crushed-in, and being controlled. Yes I was the last one to see Shanann last night. That is never a good sign. In order to enjoy a healthy diet one should simply eat a balanced diet. And who would blame who for that? She was about to be ambushed. If you are pregnant or breastfeeding consult a doctor before using this product. Meaningful weight loss requires healthy lifestyle choices, diet and exercise, and good nutritional intake. We also know that in the weeks prior Shanann was setting her husband up in her Thrive spiels as a great father and perfect husband and the best thing that has ever happened to her. Why kill them? And by recording him, for example, reacting to news of the third pregnancy and posting it on Facebook, it was becoming almost impossible to get out of it. She had a gut instinct that her husband was cheating on her and he went as far as telling her that he didnt even want the baby anymore, nor did he want Shanann.. his wife of six years. A more assertive divorce narrative [to Kessinger]. From all of my reading the last few days this is what I read, two of her friends were putting on the gender reveal party and after she found out Chriss feeling on the pregnancy she called off the party. I love Chris! I dont think it out of line to suggest that LeVel doesnt want to get sued by being associated with this case, but truthfully I dont know how it all ties in yet. REFER 2 AND YOUR THRIVE PRODUCTS ARE You can now find out the babys sex with high accuracy (I believe around 98%) around 12-13 weeks. In Shanann Watts case this question was even more pertinent since she suffered from lupus, an autoimmune disease that in some cases can actually prevent conception and pregnancy. Shanann Watts often posted about the product Le-Vel: THRIVE. Posted by Shanann Watts on Tuesday, June 19, 2018. If you like the product and use it daily, you are looking at $150 a month for the 3 basic steps. 1-2-3 SYSTEM. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANN's last name until a few days ago. You dont just go out and buy thousands of dollars worth of shit just before filing bankruptcy and expect to keep it. In the August 21 interview, conducted by phone with Colorado Bureau of Investigation Agent Kevin Koback, Kessinger discusses Watts's use of Thrive, a nutritional supplement patch that Shanann Watts sold as a Multi-Level Marketer for a company called Le-Vel. Except this social network is made up of a ton of people using and promoting The THRIVE Experience. Matt Naham Aug 20th, 2018, 11:39 am. Something was going on there. He seems unable to make and follow through with what he leads both Shanann and Nicole K to believe. And so I agree with you Holly that five week taste of freedom sealed the deal, and he couldnt go back to business as usual. Here's one example. thats all she cared about period. I looked back at a couple of videos looked like she shared the news she was pregnant super quick she must have been so excited. It's also possible he was taking something in combination to the Thrive patches that may have been a bad combination, such as steroids? the user added. You refer Customers and others who also want to get paid as Promoterspeople start telling people and your team begins to grow like a social network. The final minute of the video posted at this link [an extended version of the clip above] is very insightful in this regard. Address. He's the best dad us girls could ask for. He had already been contacted by NBC News. Suitcase with thrive, announcing she giving all her thrive away. Interesting none-the-less. 4 Theories About Laci Peterson's Murder That Could Prove He Didn't Kill His Wife. But even most narcissistic sociopaths dont strangle people. The thousands in shoes, clothes, purses etc. Basically, these things are very strong caffeine patches, and one Reddit user even compared them to ephedrine and meth, both of which are (obviously) very strong stimulants. Chris Watts began working at Anadarko as an operator six months ago, earning $61,500 annual, according to the Associated Press. Sign up forOxygen Insiderfor all the best true crime content. Chris likes other people calling the shots. The THRIVE ELITE Experience has been formulated as a system to synergistically enhance your weight management goals while helping you to look good and feel good. Shanann sold the following: ItWorks! I hate to sound victim blaming and this is in no way an excuse for her husband to murder her and the children for gods sake!! That was the plan. did shanann watts s sudden nancial success drive a fatal. There are also a multitude of other ingredients in the patches, which well get to later. Frankie only knew the sex of the child after her death. However. She was a fraud plain and simple. The house was brought by the Watts in April 2013 on a loan of $392,709. The above video was posted on May 3rd. As early as August 8th, Shanann confided in Cassie Rosenberg and Nickole Atkinson that her husband wanted a divorce [she didnt], but not right away. He was an average student, pretty smart. HEARTBREAKING images show the soiled clothing and underwear mother Shanann Watts was wearing when she was brutally murdered by her husband alongside her two daughters. The pot hadnt boiled over yet. Interesting points made here. If you want to take your results to an even higher level, be sure you combine your Classic THRIVE Experience or THRIVE ELITE Experience products with regular exercise, sufficient sleep and a healthy nutrition plan consisting of low-sugar and low-carb foods. However, after 10 years of incredible results with the Classic THRIVE Experience, a new nutritional system is HERE!! She said he had an empty head, forget everything. There are family annihilation cases each year ~ but I heard that this one took the prize in victim blaming. Its absolutely ludicrous and I cant wrap my mind around it. Do you think #Thrive patches made #ChrisWatts go insane and kill his family? According to a Facebook post from her brother, Frankie Rzucek, she was pregnant with a boy. Their memories should be honored. I feel bad for as I know she knew right after the NC trip that he was cheating on her and her marriage was coming to an end. That is where the Psychology comes into questionForensically/Criminally, Behaviorally and otherwise. Did OJ Simpson's Son Jason Kill Nicole Brown & Ron Goldman? Ok so I have an opinion on this and it probably wont be a popular one but here goes. More info here: https://crimerocket2.com/2020/10/08/frank-rzuceks-letter-to-detective-baumhover-on-his-observations-of-chris-watts-deteriorating-relationship-with-bella-and-ceecee/, Your email address will not be published. Documentsreleased by the Weld County District Attorney's Office days after Watts was sentenced to life for smothering daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, before strangling Shanann reveal just how into Thrive the couple had become. I like nice things and having nice experiences. We take it as a given that using Thrive supplements might have no effect or a negligible effect. Millions of people face this everyday, I know I did. Please consult your doctor before taking any action. She said she did not know. To me he comes off douche-y, fake and spineless (I agree with Previous Poster)I dont think he has much of an identity for himself and lives much too much in his mind. This is a lot of the same behavior patterns people go through when they get abortions. I read a study on LIVID COERCIVE killers who are motivated by anger and rageshowing control issues (recent) and may have abusive tendencies and have issues achieving their self-worth and authority within the home. I think all the abuse and toxicity of being with Shanann and realizing that someone else would want him and treat him well made him snap. I am also wondering if he had some sort of a recreational drug usethe Oxy being given to SW by CW for the abortion could have been something from his own use for fun with NK?! SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT(S) Have you heard about The THRIVE Experience? But she didnt let up about it. She was making it very difficult to admit to an affair. Ive watched hundreds of hours of videos and read all the discovery on this case and I think some of what you write may be true but not all. It is important to note that the amount of each ingredient thats listed on the Thrive products is largely unknown. It really isnt a good feeling at all to know you are expendable and vulnerable. Spot on I thinksort of sums up the sad complication of life.she was no doubt wanting to do the very best for her family, hence her ambition which could be viewed as obsession. Chris Watts told investigators that Shanann had him wear patches the company sold in videos to market them, . He takes her side in the nutgate incident and its possible hed already made up his mind what he was going to do so he could act like he was on her side knowing it really didnt make much difference, he was going to get rid of everyone anyway. The friend said she didnt think the news should be given over the phone so she could either come over right then ,which was about ten pm ,or wait till the morning she chose to wait till the morning. He seemed very distracted and disengaged. I never thought of Shanann possibly using these happy family videos with Chris before her death as a ploy to hang on to him or keep him from leaving. Its not a nice feeling. I know this is an old comment but I found out at 10 weeks with both my pregnancies that I was having a girl. Meanwhile Chris was looking for someone else, he was just sick of her and all her BS. In the post on the left above#DoctorApproved she admits shes Not doing #burn!. Have you ever broken up with someone and not felt bad about it? However, at the same time he was telling Kessinger a slightly different story. As Ive mentioned, if Thrive is genuinely life-enhancing, then this is the ultimate test: can Thrive be used while pregnant? Heartbreaking Watts Family Text Messages Released, Natasha Atchleys Brother Speaks with Cold Justice Team, Steve Spingola Tells the Story of the Ding-Dong Ditcher. But what was a doctors advice likely to be? I think she went off of what others told her about CW and what she saw for herselfher implying judgement on him, belittling his character, controlling, making off-hand commentsa lot of that is part of her character, she was outgoing, sarcastic and opinionated, that isnt always bad. If Chris CHOOSES not to make a choice in anything ie lets watch what you want to watch eat where you want to eat go where you want to go etc that doesnt automatically make Shannan controlling, it makes Chris a boring, spineless, personalityless wimp. I know all of you have many [questions] right now. Going way back, back to the conversation she had with Mr. Hamza, back before Chris was shopping around for hookups, back to when he might have first flirted with Nichole Kessinger. Shan'ann Cathryn Watts, born Shan'ann Rzucek was the late wife of murderer Chris Watts. Since Le-Vel classifies itself as a health and wellness brand, and the Watts case is massively high-profile, its possible this instruction [or advice] actually came directly from Le-Vel. The grass always looks greener when you are looking at a fantasy. If Thrive promotion had to take a back seat during Shananns pregnancy, then their finances which were hanging by a thread were about to drop through the floor. This isnt the same obviously but it is the same mental state of mindsame thought processes. When Shanann Watts got home on the morning of August 13th at about 2 am from a business trip, she had no idea what was in front of her. again westword. I didnt believe it until reading thru so very many sites and articles like these with comment sections and such. But I work my ass off in a cold office every day to pay for it. They dont want family, friends or S/Os to know so they secretly go and get this done. Watts financial situation is dire, but Le-Vels isnt. Not sure if she was present for the test and got results handed to her personally or if Shanann got them sealed and later gave to her friend to set up the gender reveal. It probably doesnt matter to those people that Shanann was controlling, and you raise a good point, did she internalize everything and wonder what she was doing wrong? I have nothing but respect for the Rzucek's. May Shanann, Bella, CeCe and Nico RIP. processed monthly Autoship orders! Shanann hiding her possible impending divorce, goes along with her living in denial as she does when she tells her Thrive clients that shes a better mother and all around human being because she wears a patch, eats the bars and drinks the shakes. Dont be hooked bypromises, testimonials, or supposed endorsements from reporters; all youll lose is money. I . That is what makes this case all the more interesting, we had most of their life documented on social media and STILL cant figure it all out. This case needed a villain and so Cindy was . LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in Thrive. Basically, it is much the same as ephedrine, the user continued, adding that it is similar to meth, and a white middle class couple in their 30s who have never done drugs might not know what the signs of being on meth are. In addition to the ingredients listed above, the Thrive Ultra Patch and Black Label Patch contain satiereal saffron extract, green tea extract, 5-HTP, L-theanine, L-arginine, quercetin, guarana, yerba mate and vitamin B12. Shanann Watts and her daughters appear to have been killed at their house in Frederick, Colorado, a town of about 8,600 people some 30 miles north of Denver, prosecutors have said. If you did any type of research . Im sure not uncommon for cheaters. Keep out of reach of children. Its not that curious that she found out so early and named her baby before 15 weeks. KILLER dad Chris Watts revealed grisly details of his pregnant wife's murder in a bombshell prison letter, according to reports. But, just a few hours later, when Nickole tried to get . Get an all-access pass to never-before-seen content, free digital evidence kits, and much more! How did she know it was a boy so early on in the pregnancy if conceived naturally? She was the same way with her 1st husband. Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? He also knew that if he left Shanann she would make his life a living hell in every aspect of a divorce. Free advertising. In the early hours of August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado, American oil field operator Christopher Lee Watts (born May 16, 1985) [1] murdered his pregnant wife Shanann (34) by strangulation, and their two children Bella (4) and Celeste (3) by smothering them. 4 Theories About Laci Peterson's Murder That Could Prove He Didn't Kill His Wife. And if her controlling nature was no big deal then it would have been no big deal. OK honey. Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. Experience, you will get your She realized she was belittling him, and too controlling, and expressed concern to Nickole about how shje was behaving and treating people. Then the weekend she died she isnt feeling so hot. She sold 'Thrive' weight-loss patches. Maybe thats why Le-Vel appealed to her so much, everything had its time and place, and promotors could get other promotors to do their bidding and feel powerful and significant within that schema. On July 12 of this year, the Wyndham Hill Master Association . They never deserved such a horrific fate. Divorce and talks of separation are obviously ways to verbally and mentally distance ones self from a S/O when talking to a potential new partner but this can oftentimes be the catalyst as wellthe reason for the Familicideone has to keep up with the lie they have already told. He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. There was one commitment in Chris Watts' life that seemed to inspire complete devotion. He is allowed a small number of visitors, including a few friends, his parents, and his rumored girlfriend, Anna Nowak. I think he did use this separation or withdrawal narrative and allowed her to once again lead the conversations and try to pry and get more information for his gain and benefitthis would allow him to gaslight, manipulate, tell her what she wanted to hear. Thats so sad. This may sound strange but he could have done it to have them be with her in death. Why do you need film footage of that? #ChrisWatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Jun 7, 2019 at 8:30am PDT. NICKVDL needs to let others do the thinking. Shannan Watts was known as a businesswoman who loved to share about her job and seemingly happy family. Answer (1 of 6): I can only speak on my own experience. I like your thoughts too, Holly. ", [Photos: Weld County District Attorneys Office, Associated Press]. Yeah, she was a real gem. He was working out a lot, especially while Shannan [sic] was in NC. by Level a company that makes a sports drink called Thrive. 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